Arc Trooper Vs Clone Commando

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I said that the Republic Commandos as depicted in the Republic Commando video game, as well as the book series were the most advanced, effective, and deadly clones in the Clone Wars. My friend, however, believes that the ARC trooper program is superior. His references are the books, and Star Wars Clone Wars TV show. LEGO Star Wars Elite Clone Trooper and Commando Droid B 9488 From the Manufacturer. The Separatists have sent a new droid enemy to attack the forces of the Republic, but the clone army’s elite troopers have a new weapon of their own: the powerful Republic artillery cannon.

  1. Arc Trooper Vs Clone Commando Full

ARC Troopers are superior to Jango in terms of combat ferocity and skill. They were trained by him. A single ARC Trooper is better than 2 Clone Commando squads.Single Republic Commando Arc Trooper.Nah ARC Trooper is superior.They really arnt. Only handful Republic Commandos were train, and they were train outside the rest of the Clones by specialist. Arc Troopers are just Clones that excel in training or combat, and get more training as they advance to Arc. They are a dime a dozen compared to Republic Commandos.

:: ARC Troopers were also trained outside of the Clones, difference being is that ARC Troopers can work alone, Clone Commandos are squad based. It's noted by a Clone Commando before a mission, that an ARC Trooper would have been the better choice.False. Every Arc troopers we seen in the Clone Wars show, which is canon and makes up legends canon too, show Arc Troopers are drafted from exceptional Clones after passing their final test on Kamino, or recruited during the war for exceptional ability in the ranks. Come now.Republic Commandos also worked great alone as seen in the Game for mission scenarios, and Clone Wars episode with a single out Republic Commando against all odds. They are stronger as a unit, but they are still as a unit more effective than several Arcs working with each other too.I summon thee for more elaboration.Please do.

:Here we go.Null Class Arc Trooper. Only Six ever hit the field.Alpha Arcs Trooper. Only 100 of them ever made.All other Arc Troopers in the War in Canon were not special made at all, just Clone Troopers advance into ranks.Republic Commandos are Canon and legends as well.Canon.Legends.Clone Commandos are stated to be every bit as lethal and special as ARC troopers canon and Legends wise. They are stated to be the best for thinking outside the box than any other Clone, highly specialized than any Clone individually, and still effective while still working as a group. :The first group is the Muunilist 10, there are only three Alpha Arc in what group.

There's Fordo A-77, and the two lieutenants in blue. The rest of the troopers are the ones you mean, the clones with ARC training, trained by ALPHA ARCS on Kamino for missions like this.Second video:Is the hypori mission, if they've got colours it's means theres Alpha ARCS. Since that's how there portrayed in the micro series. Unlike the TCW, where a part of that series is clones with ARC training who have customised their armour with Arc armour components. There are no Alpha ARCS or Nulls in the current Starwars canon full stop.

There are only the cross trained troopers who were trained by Alpha ARCS. These troopers in the TCW are called ARCS.

They shouldn't be mixed in with the accomplishments of Alpha Arcs, like Fordos squads. In Legends there are instances of clones who received arc training, which is what you're talking about. Prime examples of these, are the non alpha arcs in the muunilist 10, the strikforce trained by Alpha-17 and commanded by commander cody.

And the clones from that book which I can't remember the name of. But I'll find out and tell you.

My main point is, don't try to mix the accomplishments of alpha arcs with that of troopers trained by them. :The first group is the Muunilist 10, there are only three Alpha Arc in what group. There's Fordo A-77, and the two lieutenants in blue. The rest of the troopers are the ones you mean, the clones with ARC training, trained by ALPHA ARCS on Kamino for missions like this.Im still waiting for proof mate. The Cartoon network Micro Series and Micro Series comics NEVER had anything stating Alpha or Null class Arc Troopers. So can you find me a quote within the canon of the micro Series that state Alpha Class? Can you find me any statement why the contradicting Micro Series is in line with Dark Horse solo Clone Wars series?Im waiting for proof mate.

I read these comics and the various canon timelines they took place in (G Canon, C Canon, ect EU shit back in the day). The Cartoon Network Micro Series Show and Comics plays out from beginning to end very different from the Dark Horse Clone War comics. : The Complete Encyclopedia notes that Alphas were used in the Muunilinst battle.After a refinement of the cloning process, the next batch(Alpha class) of ARCs numbered 100. They were trained by Fett and put in stasis until needed.

When separatist forces attacked Kamino, prime minister Lama Su and Jedi Master Shaak Ti activated the ARCs as a last line of defense. From that engagement forward, they became valuable assets in the Clone Wars.

Arc Trooper Vs Clone Commando

General Obi-Wan Kenobi led an elite team of ARC troopers on a mission against the InterGalactic Banking Clan on Muunilist.- The Complete Star Wars EncyclopediaAlso noted in the Guide to the GAR.Captain Foro led a multiclone task force known as The Muunilist 10. Fordo led a squad of two ARC LTs and several infantry clones. He then led 10 LTs in an emergency rescue of several Jedi on Hypori.- Taken from Insider 87. :So you missed the part where the captain in the series named fords designation was A-77.

Which is short for Alpha 77, he's an alpha ARC. I'm well aware that the micro series does not tie in to dark horse comics, nevertheless the alpha arcs are in both.

My point is that you shouldn't be trying to give the cross trained arcs from the TCW, feats that were performed by Alpha ARCS. Especially since the arcs you're referring to have never even looked the same as alpha ARCS.

So I'm bewildered as to how you got them confused in the first place. : A-77 does not mean Alpha. Just a letter in the designation. There is no saying of Alpha being a thing it the micro series. The Micro series existed before Alpha Arc (which came from the comics) was ever a thing. Not once they are called Alpha or Alpha Arcs like in the comic.

Just Arcs. The Micro series time table and events are not connected to the time table and events of the Dark horse comics that had Nulls and Alphas.If your only connection is random letter in designation letter, I don't see much to say. :So what you're trying to say is that fordo is a crosstrained arc trooper. Well that's just wrong, because the designation A only means alpha it has never meant anything else than that in the clone army.

Arc Trooper Vs Clone Commando

Clone troopers have CT as their designation, the only troopers that don't have this are Arcs and Nulls, which have A or N respectively. So I have no idea why you're trying to disprove Fordo being an Alpha when it's pretty clear. His designation is A-77, Alphas designation is A-17, muzzles designation is A-66. I'm not seeing how you're not getting this.

They are Alpha ARCs. Fordo was in the micro series, and was called an ARC along with the other 2 other lieutenants. These same lieutenants are dressed very similar to Alphas armour. Since Alphas are officers, either green sergeant, red captain, blue lieutenant or yellow commander.

So it's safe to say that the two lieutenants are alphas along with fordo, while the rest of the clovers in the muunilist 10 are cross trained arcs. :So what you're trying to say is that fordo is a crosstrained arc trooper. Well that's just wrong, because the designation A only means alpha it has never meant anything else than that in the clone army. Clone troopers have CT as their designation, the only troopers that don't have this are Arcs and Nulls, which have A or N respectively. So I have no idea why you're trying to disprove Fordo being an Alpha when it's pretty clear. His designation is A-77, Alphas designation is A-17, muzzles designation is A-66. I'm not seeing how you're not getting this.

They are Alpha ARCs. Fordo was in the micro series, and was called an ARC along with the other 2 other lieutenants. These same lieutenants are dressed very similar to Alphas armour.

Since Alphas are officers, either green sergeant, red captain, blue lieutenant or yellow commander. So it's safe to say that the two lieutenants are alphas along with fordo, while the rest of the clovers in the muunilist 10 are cross trained arcs.Your grasping for connections that arnt there. Unless the Micro Series states these are Alphas or Alpha Arcs, they dont exist in the Micro Series. Again. The Micro series existed before Alpha Arc lore which came from the comics. Not once they are called Alpha or Alpha Arc Troopers like in the non Cartoon Network comics. Just Arcs.

The Micro series time table and events are not connected to the time table and events of the Dark Horse made Clone Wars comics that had Nulls and Alphas in them. :: Here we go.The top tiers — labeled George Lucas canon ( G-canon) and Television canon ( T-canon) — consisted of the six films, the animated film “Star Wars: The Clone Wars,” the television series “Star Wars: The Clone Wars,” film novelizations and other primary sources. G-canon — the canon consisting of the six films — was absolute and above T-canon.Continuity-canon ( C-canon) was the third tier (below G-canon and T-canon), and included much of the Expanded Universe content, such as books, comics and RPG sourcebooks. Anything in C-canon could be overridden by levels above it — and it often was. Some events in the “Clone Wars” TV series contradicted and replaced stories in the Expanded Universe.

Similarly, Expanded Universe backstories created for characters like Boba Fett in the ’80s and ’90s were rewritten upon the release of the prequel trilogy of films.Secondary canon ( S-canon) and Non-canon ( N-canon). S-canon refers to material that could be used or ignored by authors as they saw fit; for the most part this included material published immediately after the release of “Star Wars” in 1977 that was created before there was an effort to keep track of continuity. N-canon described stories that were intentionally written to exist outside of canon.As stated back in the day, when this was the canon set up, the Clone Wars Micro Series TV show was T Canon. It was above C Canon of the comics you guys are discussing. C Canon was tacked onto G canon and C canon. So without the lore of the C Canon comics by Dark Horse, the t Canon has NO ALPHA ARCS mention.

Ever.So unless you have evidence of a statement or quote from some official source that Micro Series that came out waaaay before the comics with Alpha Arcs ever mention being canon to each other directly, they are not that.

Good question.well i would say, it depends on the training and on the type of clone we are speaking from. There are several types of clones.type a arc clones where the first version of the jango fett clones, which are highly intelligent, but also they do think independed like jango fett and they are hard to be control. Only kal skirata was able to raise and to training them to be a arc trooper. Those skirata arcs are highly intelligent, crazy but loyal to all who they trust.the type b arc troopers are the second generation of clone arc troopers.

Like the type a arcs they are very intelligent but they can be better controled.both arc types using standard clone trooper armors ( phase 1 and 2 ).then we have the clone commandos.clone commandos are geneticly enhanced, taller then normal clones, and like the type a arc they think independ with no limititations of their creativity which is needed becaus commandos are operating very often behind enemy lines. They use a kartan armor which is superior to the standart clone trooper armors.

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The kartan armor can withstand detonations and blaster fire. Only a direct hit from a blaster canon can hit through the armor.

Also the armor can be used in space. The commandos use also modulate weaponry, within seconds their blaster can be changed into a sniper rifle or a grenade launcher.all in all i would say the commando is superrior to the arc b type clone but equal to the type a arc trooper.

I'd just want to say this from a competitive mind set, there are people who do what they are told because they have to, and that is it, besides simple survival they usually don't have a drive to do extra work and give every ounce that they to complete a goal. But, if you freely choose to give something your all, and I mean as in you do not go to sleep without thinking of accomplishing your goal and you do every bit of work required and even more extra. There is no comparison between the two type of people, and that is why free will is a lot more than just the ability to say yes or no.

ARC's are base troopers enhanced to be more deadly and smart and versatile while RC's are plain and simple born and bred and trained to be pure killers to the core even when outmatched 1 to 20 they still can just mash up the place with their skill and equipment.Example Gregor in the clone wars animated series just ripped a platoon or 2 of battle droids and droidekas before commiting suicide by blowing the tibanna tanks to save the strike team of droids and the funny small alien general leading them. Straight one-on-one fight I'm not quite sure.If it was one of the 'Alpha ARCS' then probably them.However, if it was one of the troopers later trained to be an ARC, I lean more towards the Commando, I think.That's not even mentioning the Null ARC's, like Ordo and Mereel, etc. Those guys are just nuts (and would probably turn the commando into chop suey).So, overall, I'll say in a one-on-one, the ARC.One ARC versus the a commando squad though, I'll go with commando.

(Again, as long as we're not talking about the Null ARC's). I feel that battle hardened commandos, like Delta or Omega squads, would flatten most Alpha pattern or cross trained ARC troopers. The Nulls, with their tendency to use unorthodox or unconventional kit, would probably flatten most commandos with little hassle.As commandos are trained in squads of four, usually from decanting, they probably have an edge up over a lone or paired ARC trooper, as evidenced when Atin and Darman took down A-30 on Gaftikar.One on one is a bit more difficult.ARC trooper armor is evidently simply an upgraded suit of trooper armor that contains more reconnaissance bits, and is reinforced to stand the rigors of battle. Commando armor, on the other hand, contains some kind of low power shield emitter, as shown in the Republic Commando game, and is designed to hold up to everything up to the light cannons found on combat capable speeders.Weapon wise, the Westar M5 is a fairly utilitarian assault rifle capable of automatic fire, and they're backed up with a similar handgun to the commando units. They also carry grenades and scanning equipment to better reconnoiter the field.The DC-17, by comparison, is similar to the real world SOPMOD kits issued for M4 pattern weapons, as it can be configured to nearly any role by replacing the barrel and magazine. The DC sidearm that commandos carry is also fairly powerful, probably because they need a backup weapon almost as deadly as their primary weapons.I'd give a hypothetical battle to a commando squad over a team of ARC troopers, and a one on one match would come close to a draw. I'd toss my vote for Commandos.

They really are badass. They have an assault rifle that can morph into a sniper and a grenade launcher. They have far superior suits. Their armor can take a lot more damage and even has a shield system and extra visor sensors.

They were trained to work as a squad in perfect unison. A squad of Commandos against a platoon of ARCs? I'd have to say Commando.People are saying ARCs would win, but Grievous ran away from your squad in RC. The guy who can kill multiple Jedi by himself runs away from the commandos.Also, people are saying their blasters are weaker, but I think that was just for gameplay purposes. Would RC really have been fun if all the enemies could be killed in one shot?

I think they just beefed up the enemies so the game would have a challenge. While the clone commandos were generally acknowledged as a superior breed compared to the majority of the standard-issued clone troopers, the only clones in the Grand Army that superseded the commandos in skill and reputation were the ARC troopers. Though the Null-class ARCs were still regarded as anti-authoritative and problematic, they were useful as intelligence operatives. The more well-known Alpha-class ARC troopers, trained by the hand of Jango Fett himself, were acknowledged as the absolute best and most elite force that the Grand Army of the Republic had to offer. Their reputation was so renown amongst the clones that not even the commandos challenged the superiority of the ARC troopers.

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Omega Squad felt a mixture of respect, awe and fear in regards to the ARCs. RC-1136 admitted that the ARC troopers were the only people on the Republic's side that he feared; RC-3222 regarded the ARC troopers as the clones that were closest to emulating Jango Fett in skill and personality, describing them as 'pretty well raw Jango.' In the blood-soaked Sabbat Worlds Crusade, the massed ranks of the Imperium battle the dark forces of Chaos for dominion. At the forefront of this conflict are the Imperial Guard – untold numbers of ordinary soldiers fighting to preserve the Emperor’s holy realm. 'Colonel-Commissar Ibram Gaunt and the men of the Tanith First-and-Only are at the heart of this struggle. 'Forced to flee their planet before it was destroyed by Chaos, they are the last of their breed.

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